Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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KD5PQJ
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Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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I too start with boot file with two Network brackets so that it can switch between routers attachment (3)
checking for fail by going to configuration and pulling up the edit I see a name not in the boot wpa_suppliment attachment (4)
switch to edit in the expert wifi section and move the # from the right line to bad line attachment (5) and still no fix....
suggest feature EYEBALL like Microsoft uses for seeing/decryption of password/names

are there bugs to be reported here as can someone else dup this?
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Re: Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 4:35 pm I too start with boot file with two Network brackets so that it can switch between routers attachment (3)
checking for fail by going to configuration and pulling up the edit I see a name not in the boot wpa_suppliment attachment (4)
The weird name is BECAUSE you manually edited the file and are trying to use the incorrect SSID.
KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 4:35 pm switch to edit in the expert wifi section and move the # from the right line to bad line attachment (5) and still no fix....
You cannot do that. There are two SSID's, one of them is plaintext (it is there for human readability) and one of them is encoded. The system is DESIGNED to ONLY use the encoded one because some routers have difficulty with certain characters.

The weird name is simply the hex conversion of the plaintext.
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/num ... o-hex.html

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K  D  5  P  Q  J  _  H  E  R  B
4b 44 35 50 51 4a 5f 48 45 52 42

KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 4:35 pm suggest feature EYEBALL like Microsoft uses for seeing/decryption of password/names
No.
KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 4:35 pm are there bugs to be reported here as can someone else dup this?
I don't see any bugs, I just see an operator induced error.

You have two options:

Use the dashboard and delete all networks and create them using the dashboard.

or

Use the wifi builder and create two wpa_supplicant files and manually (using notpad on another computer) to merge the complete individual network section from the second file with the first file.
https://www.pistar.uk/wifi_builder.php

Do not go into the wpa_supplicant.conf file and start uncommenting lines (removing #) expecting things to work, it doesn't need any modifications.

Also it is incredibly irresponsible to post your network connection information. I suggest you change it or in future posts you at least mask it.
If someones previous actions are any indication of their future actions, then I predict the deletion and removal of access will happen at any moment. 7-11-2020.

"07/13/20 This Website Has Been Taken Down" ... again :lol:
KD5PQJ
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Re: Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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AH, I do see that I failed in the expert mode of moving the # sign! That will not happen again until memory goes.
But my next question is why in (4) the one that is broken shows encoded while the one working is clear text?
they should be both encoded or plain text right?
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Re: Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:51 pm But my next question is why in (4) the one that is broken shows encoded while the one working is clear text?
Again, it is because YOU incorrectly uncommented the plaintext one and disabled the encoded one.

I guess you don't realize that the two are actually the same thing, its just one has been left in ASCII and the other has been converted to HEX. Again the reason for this is because of certain characters that some devices use. Apple products are one that use these special characters.
KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:51 pm they should be both encoded or plain text right?
No, one is encoded and one is plaintext. The plaintext is only there for human readability (to make it easy for you to read and understand what it is without having to manually decode it.)

It should always be encoded, and only the encoded one should be used. That is why I said you do not need to uncomment or comment out any lines in an editor. Just leave it alone.
If someones previous actions are any indication of their future actions, then I predict the deletion and removal of access will happen at any moment. 7-11-2020.

"07/13/20 This Website Has Been Taken Down" ... again :lol:
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Re: Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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Yes I understand about (5) and not editing, but (4) is after a boot encoding of (3) and that should be the same Plain text for both or same
Hex coding for both. (5) was after I changed the # and is my bad but it didn't do the encoding to generate the config seeing in (4) this is after boot of (3) and no error would have shown in (5) except for my change and wouldn't explain why wifi misses on one after boot. I should have shot the screen before edit as it looked good but different that switching between position (4) and (5) in the configuration screens. In 7 hours I will know as it is
card test time for the 3rd start over.
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Re: Pi ZeroW wont connect to WiFi

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KD5PQJ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 11:32 pm Yes I understand about (5) and not editing, but (4) is after a boot encoding of (3) and that should be the same Plain text for both or same
Hex coding for both. (5) was after I changed the # and is my bad but it didn't do the encoding to generate the config seeing in (4) this is after boot of (3) and no error would have shown in (5) except for my change and wouldn't explain why wifi misses on one after boot. I should have shot the screen before edit as it looked good but different that switching between position (4) and (5) in the configuration screens. In 7 hours I will know as it is
card test time for the 3rd start over.
Herbert kd5pqj
I'm having a difficult time understanding your explanation. It is rather confusing.

You said that 4 is after a boot encoding of 3, (I don't even understand what a "boot encoding" is) but 3 clearly shows that you have already uncommented the plaintext, which is incorrect. If you use the wifi builder and enter your network information and then view the newly created wpa_supplicant.conf file you'll see the correct lines that are supposed to be used.

You need to just stop trying to manually edit the file and let either the wifi builder or the dashboard handle things for you.
If someones previous actions are any indication of their future actions, then I predict the deletion and removal of access will happen at any moment. 7-11-2020.

"07/13/20 This Website Has Been Taken Down" ... again :lol:
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