Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

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Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by KE2SJ » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:40 pm

Hi-
I'm using a 3.5" Nextion enhanced with the Driver installed and working. I use a Model 8 and want to display user info (e.g.., call, name, qth, country) and TG info (names and numbers). I followed the instructions and uploaded /usr/local/bin and commented out the DRMID file location in MMDVM.ini. I used the stripped.csv from the MD380TOOLS FB group, which is formatted just like the older version posted on Rob's repo. The groups.txt was taken from Rob's repo, All are in ascending order by ID. At first, only DMR IDs would appear with names for a handful of stations. Then I CHMODded the the dbs to 777 and I got calls and more names to appear. But I still don't get any qth info for anyone and get calls and names for many but not all. I've looked for patterns but found that the stations displaying no info had identically formatted entries in the db as everyone else.

And no data appearing for TGs - exactly the same as before I made the changes. I've tried ever.thing but can't get this to work. I know it can because I've seen in work in a video clip. Any help appreciated! Many thanks! If you want to see my db files or mmdvm.ini, email me at [email protected].

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Re: Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by KE2SJ » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:01 am

UPDATE - chmodding stripped.csv got me call signs back, but still no QTHs or TG Info from groups.txt. Just to bring you up to speed:

I'm using the 3.5" model 8 dash. I downloaded stripped.csv from the MD380Tools guys (identical in format to an older version posted by Rob in his repo) and groups.txt from Rob's repo. I uploaded them to /usr/bin/local. Driver installed and working. I commented out the DMRId location in MMDVM.

When I key up, all I see is name and call displayed, nothing else like QTH and country. As fr TG, It still shows the TG group number and that's it And for my LastHeards separate screen, 95% of entries are just Calls without names. Things worked better before I made the changes. I will probably revert to the old setup. Both files are in ascending order by DMRID.

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Re: Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by n9mxq » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:04 pm

Pretty sure this is due to the European privacy act that passed last year. They only allow Call and name to be displayed. The rest of the database followed suit for easier editing.
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Re: Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by KE2SJ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:48 am

But the csv lists don't take into account laws, they're just lists of data to be called up by HMI....

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Re: Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by KE0FHS » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:36 pm

KE2SJ wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:48 am
But the csv lists don't take into account laws, they're just lists of data to be called up by HMI....
I think Rob is correct. When the GDPR went into effect, the CCS7 ID registration system changed to comply with the new law (see https://register.ham-digital.org/data_protection.ENG). As I understand it, that's why registrations for Europe and Africa (https://register.ham-digital.org/) are now handled separately from the rest of the world (https://www.radioid.net/register#!). The csv lists are drawn from those master lists. On the ham-digital.org site, they even say, "Some lists may show additional data which are transmitted live by your radio, like personal text, geo-location etc.. We do not store this data and feel not responsible for it."
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Re: Model 8 and Groups.txt and stripped.csv

Post by KE7FNS » Tue May 14, 2019 12:33 am

KE2SJ wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:40 pm
I use a Model 8 and want to display user info (e.g.., call, name, qth, country) and TG info (names and numbers).
You never said exactly which hmi/tft you were loading, and that would help a bunch.
PD0DIB's model 8 ?? Globe, dashboard, simplex, duplex etc...

FYI, It has nothing to do with read/write perms of any files, it is far more complicated than that.
KE2SJ wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:40 pm
I know it can because I've seen in work in a video clip.
The video you were looking at wasn't running the exact same .tft file that you loaded. You might need to take a step back, and think about that for a bit.

See, on the screens I mentioned earlier, PD0DIB doesn't have the text fields for the data that you are wanting, I know this because I've been working on getting ALL of the data you are wanting onto a custom screen I'm working on. So it is impossible for those screens to display that data in their downloaded straight from github form. The only way I know of currently to get that data is to either load ON7LDS's L3 screen, or manually add the fields to PD0DIB's in the editor, there might be someone else's screen that has it, but I haven't liked the design/colors enough to load it and see. The video you saw where it worked is not the same file that you have access to, maybe that video has a link for you to download it or something, but I haven't seen it.

So with that, there is some more good and bad news, the good news is I plan on releasing my screens for people to use, but the bad news is as of this moment I only have a 5" simplex in a acceptable finished form, and I'll probably start working on a 5" duplex version because it would be the easiest to complete. As far as a 3.5 inch screen I haven't even started creating the images, so maybe in few weeks I'll have something. And I don't have access to any screens smaller than that, and with as much time as it takes to create the graphics, I doubt I will have the motivation to make them, but if people really like them, that might change my mind. I might also entertain custom requests as long as it is relatively simple like colorbox changes etc. Another problem is I only have the capability to test DMR, so I'm just kind of simulating the other modes.

Currently the only time the user data messes up is when someone has goofy characters in their talker alias like "N1ABC-John" or when there is no callsign in it like I saw last night during the net "TAC 310 NC". I'm still working on those two situations.

Also a word of warning, make sure that there are no " (double quote) characters ANYWHERE in stripped.csv, it seems the NextionDriver isn't smart enough to not include them when its importing the data. It causes problems when sending the text fields to the screen later on, that one was fun trying to debug, took me about a day to stumble onto it.

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