Not receiving signal

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Not receiving signal

Post by M6KFR » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:56 pm

I am using a raspberry pi hot spot thro a tyt380 and up until recently it worked fine
I had a couple of weeks away from " hamming" and on my return I found that my transmit showed up on my pistar dash I wasn't getting any signal back
I've been told that BM Selfcare now require a password to be set ? ??
I've searched the forum and have ended up totally confused.
Could someone please tell me either a link that explains a pi-star Brand Meistersinger set up or explain what is needed to be done if passwords are now needed and where I should find the location where to set the passwords
As you can guess I'm new to DMR and simply want to connect to a chatty talk group
Any advice will be gratefully received
73' M6KFR Gordon

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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M1DNS » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:49 am

Go to the admin/expert page and click live logs. My guess is the log will report your not connecting to the server. A few weeks back the UK server changed its access password. You can edit the changes to the password in admin/expert dmrgateway, by changing the password shown there in the BM section from passw1rd to passw0rd (using a zero) Or simply run an update and it should solve the issue.

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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M6KFR » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:59 pm

Thank you Andrew
I tried your solution but I still cannot get a return signal
I can transmit, it shows up, but still no return
Could you tell me what the 'generic' setting for BM reflectors are if I wish to connect up to let's say TG92 ?
I would be grateful for any advice
Gordon

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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by KE7FNS » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:33 pm

try this
http://wiki.pistar.uk/Pi-Star_Brandmeis ... t_Security

Then check the logs and see if you are being able to log into the BM server.
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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M1DNS » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:22 pm

M6KFR wrote:Thank you Andrew
I tried your solution but I still cannot get a return signal
I can transmit, it shows up, but still no return
Could you tell me what the 'generic' setting for BM reflectors are if I wish to connect up to let's say TG92 ?
I would be grateful for any advice
Gordon
First you have to establish a connection with a BM server. Try changing to the Ireland or Danish server. Users in the FB group are still saying they're having issues connecting with the UK master.





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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M6KFR » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:19 pm

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Hi after reading a mass of information and watching numerous video.s and with a fellow ham,My setup is to say the least a failure. I thought to send in some screen shots showing the chaos my DMR pi-star set up has become.Yes the BER Is high but i can tweak that later.
My system worked a treat (along with my DStar and YSFhotspots all seperate units different frequencies) But since V4of pi-starwas updated chaos.. As you can see DMR has gone to pot.
Can some kind person suggest where I'm going wrong....yes i KNOW..Where do you start !.
can someone suggest ref settings active ref default ref etc...
It's alot I know but i would appreciate the help and advice
73
Gordon M6KFR

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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by KE7FNS » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:44 pm

Not really sure what all the images are supposed to convey. The only thing I really gather from them is you haven't transmitted over the BM network since 11/09/2019.

Does the log show you are connected to the BM server?

Did you set the hotspot security password as I suggested or not?
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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by KE0FHS » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:43 pm

Hi Gordon, there are many steps you can take to start troubleshooting.
  1. Make sure Pi-Star is up to date. You should be on Pi-Star Upgrade Version 4.1.0-RC6 (I can't tell what version you're on since all of your screen captures cut off the top right corner of the Pi-Star dashboard where that info is displayed). Be sure you are using 4.1.x and not 4.0.x, since 4.0.x was deprecated half a year ago.
  2. Make sure you are on Pi-Star Update Version 20191112. From the BrandMeister Hotspot info, it looks like you're several months out of date.
  3. It looks like you're running a standard MMDVM_HS_Hat radio/modem board. If that's true, your firmware, v1.3.7, is extremely out of date. That version was released in May 2018. Since then, there have been nine releases, some of them with quite critical updates. The current version is v1.4.17.
  4. As several others have said, set up a BrandMeister Hotspot Security password: http://wiki.pistar.uk/Pi-Star_Brandmeis ... t_Security
  5. Clean up your static talkgroup list. I'd suggest you completely delete all your static talkgroups, then do your testing with a talkgroup you know is busy. Only once you have solved your issue, then you can start adding back some static talkgroups, but my recommendation is that you keep your your static list to just a few talkgroups at the most.
  6. Even though you shared many, many screen captures, you didn't show your Pi-Star Configuration settings, so it's impossible to know what your setup is. Maybe you're already doing this, but keep things simple during troubleshooting: in the DMR Configuration section, don't use DMRGateway; instead, select an actual DMR Master, and during testing, try a different BrandMeister DMR Master than the one you've been using, just in case there is some problem with that one.
  7. And you're right, you really need to solve your BER problem. Sooner would be better than later.
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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M6KFR » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Many Thanks Toshen
I can see I have alot to learn with DMR, I'll start with your procedures, I did let my hobby slip for the summer, this I regret.
Whilst there is alot of information re DMR for a newbee like myself. its very confusing !!.
Still nothing ventured nothing gained.
Thanks to those who gave time and advice, its appreciated
Gordon M6KFR

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Re: Not receiving signal

Post by M6KFR » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:02 pm

Toshen I carried out the 'to do' list,I tried removing ALL T.G. but two TG93 TG83 Refuse to be shifted, I have set passwords as suggested, altered passw1rd to passw0rd did API. The first live log shows BM closed to me but the second seems to have let it thro ? I can see my ptt coming thro but still no transmission back, i double checked my HT Settings they are o.k. I had more screen shots but was only allowed to post these ?[attachment=2]CaptureNOV3.JPG
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