Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

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Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by W1KGK » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:59 pm

It seems that the Newest version 4.1 has some issues with Pi Zero W
It sometimes will boot, but very sluggish
Sometimes it find the WIFI and most times it doesn't.
When accessing it from a browser, it sometimes connects and sometimes takes a long time to access the dashboard
and then we update by pressing update ....long delay and sometimes noting happens and the card is corrupted.
This has happened on most of my raspberry Pi Zero W ONLY!
My raspberry Pi 3b+ and Pi 4 seems not problem.

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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by G8SEZ » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:25 pm

I have 3 Pi Zero W with Jumbospot RF running Pi-Star 4.1 and they are just fine for me, I don't see any of the symptoms you report.

Suggest you try looking at the log output on boot, I do this by opening a second browser tab.
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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by KD8DVR » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:45 pm

I have 5 pi zeroes. No issues.

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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by KE7FNS » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:03 pm

Most likely this is just a case of the original poster not being patient enough. A RPi Zero W can take a full minute to become stable when booting, where a 3B+ and a 4B can be stable in 10-15 seconds.

The major difference is between a single processor at 1 Ghz, and 4 processors at 1.2, 1.4 or 1.5 Ghz, and 512 MB of ram compared to 1, 2 or 4 GB.

He could plug a monitor into the RPi and watch the booting process to see what it is doing and about how long it takes to become stable. It would also be a greater help if he provided more detailed information on his reports, or is able to reproduce it every single time on multiple devices.
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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by VK3HAW » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:17 pm

KE7FNS wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:03 pm
Most likely this is just a case of the original poster not being patient enough. A RPi Zero W can take a full minute to become stable when booting, where a 3B+ and a 4B can be stable in 10-15 seconds.

The major difference is between a single processor at 1 Ghz, and 4 processors at 1.2, 1.4 or 1.5 Ghz, and 512 MB of ram compared to 1, 2 or 4 GB.

He could plug a monitor into the RPi and watch the booting process to see what it is doing and about how long it takes to become stable. It would also be a greater help if he provided more detailed information on his reports, or is able to reproduce it every single time on multiple devices.
Exactly what I was going to say. You have to be patient with the Pi Zero, whether booting, updating or loading the dashboard, and the initial boot can take a long time with the Pi Zero.

The main trouble I had with the WiFi was not having the correct country code set in Wireless Configuration.

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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by EA3ICD » Fri May 08, 2020 7:17 pm

Hi!

I'm running 4.1.1 in a mmdvm hs_hat board (simplex) over a Pi Zero W.

I noticed these behaviours, but I've also noticed that it significantly increased temperature. Now it runs no lower than 44ºC, even without case. That is 2-4ºC hotter than 3.4.17.

I dont't know if this "issue" is identified, but now my Zero gets higher than 50ºC quite often, and I'm a little bit worried about it.

Anyway, for me it's running fine. I know some fellow hams have had problems with the 4.1.1, and some of them have reverted to 3.4.17.

Greetings and 73 from Catalunya!

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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by MW0MWZ » Fri May 08, 2020 7:26 pm

EA3ICD wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:17 pm
Hi!

I'm running 4.1.1 in a mmdvm hs_hat board (simplex) over a Pi Zero W.

I noticed these behaviours, but I've also noticed that it significantly increased temperature. Now it runs no lower than 44ºC, even without case. That is 2-4ºC hotter than 3.4.17.

I dont't know if this "issue" is identified, but now my Zero gets higher than 50ºC quite often, and I'm a little bit worried about it.

Anyway, for me it's running fine. I know some fellow hams have had problems with the 4.1.1, and some of them have reverted to 3.4.17.

Greetings and 73 from Catalunya!

Joan
something about Raspbian buster seems to be a little less efficient, but 50C isn't close to the limits for the Zero, the SoC can run quite a bit hotter without issues.
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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by KE7FNS » Fri May 08, 2020 8:28 pm

MW0MWZ wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:26 pm
something about Raspbian buster seems to be a little less efficient, but 50C isn't close to the limits for the Zero, the SoC can run quite a bit hotter without issues.
Perhaps you should leave the temperature indicator green until something like 55C. Seems that a majority of people are freaking out and worrying over normal operating temps.
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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by EA3ICD » Sat May 09, 2020 6:33 am

KE7FNS wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:28 pm
MW0MWZ wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:26 pm
something about Raspbian buster seems to be a little less efficient, but 50C isn't close to the limits for the Zero, the SoC can run quite a bit hotter without issues.
Perhaps you should leave the temperature indicator green until something like 55C. Seems that a majority of people are freaking out and worrying over normal operating temps.
Not a bad idea! I must confess that seeing the indicator in orange worries me a little, even knowing that dangerous temperatures start quite higher (70ºC?).

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Re: Ver 4.1 and Pi zero w

Post by EA3ICD » Mon May 18, 2020 11:42 am

I reinstalled the case cover (all aluminium), and the temperature seems not to increase. I've not seen anymore temps above 50ºC.

I wonder if having the dashboard loaded in a browser tab increases the CPU load, because I closed it and now I just access the dashboard to check activity and/or temperature. It has been always under 50ºC since then.

So, for the moment I'm happy with 4.1.1 over a single slot hs_hat and the tiny Zero W.

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